Comments on: How not to drink the Ruby coloured cool-aid http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/ High-Availability Guru Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:42:14 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Alex http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/comment-page-1/#comment-1974 Alex Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:18:42 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/#comment-1974 Haha yes I have. Thanks guys! Haha yes I have.

Thanks guys!

]]> By: allan branch http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/comment-page-1/#comment-1961 allan branch Mon, 16 Apr 2007 04:14:53 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/#comment-1961 You've fallen back to the dark side... Good Luck in PHP land, the LessAccounting.com guys You’ve fallen back to the dark side…

Good Luck in PHP land, the LessAccounting.com guys

]]> By: Alex http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/comment-page-1/#comment-510 Alex Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:24:26 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/#comment-510 To add to my last comment, I'm aware there is a tradeoff between time and knowledge. But this is business after all, and if I weren't so inclined on making money, my decision might (and probably would) have been different. :) To add to my last comment, I’m aware there is a tradeoff between time and knowledge. But this is business after all, and if I weren’t so inclined on making money, my decision might (and probably would) have been different.

:)

]]> By: Alex http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/comment-page-1/#comment-509 Alex Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:21:56 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/#comment-509 Hi James, Thanks for writing! I agree with the fact that no language can prepare you for writing an application. To answer your last question, I would have to guess the only way to really know is to actually try. I don't think there exists a point where people can't accomplish tasks anymore, using certain tools. It's more a matter of weighing your "available time" with your "desire to extend your knowledge". I may have lost a few weeks of work but i've been able to recoup that loss in a matter of days. That (the time) was more important to me than going all-out and mastering Ruby/Rails (the knowledge). Hi James,

Thanks for writing! I agree with the fact that no language can prepare you for writing an application.

To answer your last question, I would have to guess the only way to really know is to actually try.

I don’t think there exists a point where people can’t accomplish tasks anymore, using certain tools. It’s more a matter of weighing your “available time” with your “desire to extend your knowledge”.

I may have lost a few weeks of work but i’ve been able to recoup that loss in a matter of days. That (the time) was more important to me than going all-out and mastering Ruby/Rails (the knowledge).

]]> By: James http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/comment-page-1/#comment-496 James Sat, 24 Feb 2007 02:09:16 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/#comment-496 "The problem, which I obviously overlooked, was that I had no idea how to build a REAL web application on my own using RoR. I somewhat overestimated my knowledge and expertise, and I think I fell flat on my face." Good point, but where's the Ruby Kool-Aid? I don't think any Ruby (mind you, not RoR, but Ruby) advocate would suggest that learning Ruby, or any language, would magically prepare you for any particular application. If you want to knock some (many? most?) people in the Rails community for hyping false hope, have at it. But does there ever come a time when someone should take the hit in time and trouble to change languages and toolkits (whatever they may be)? And how does one know when they have reached a local maxima with regards to what they can accomplish with their current tools? “The problem, which I obviously overlooked, was that I had no idea how to build a REAL web application on my own using RoR. I somewhat overestimated my knowledge and expertise, and I think I fell flat on my face.”

Good point, but where’s the Ruby Kool-Aid? I don’t think any Ruby (mind you, not RoR, but Ruby) advocate would suggest that learning Ruby, or any language, would magically prepare you for any particular application.

If you want to knock some (many? most?) people in the Rails community for hyping false hope, have at it. But does there ever come a time when someone should take the hit in time and trouble to change languages and toolkits (whatever they may be)? And how does one know when they have reached a local maxima with regards to what they can accomplish with their current tools?

]]> By: Alex http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/comment-page-1/#comment-375 Alex Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:10:23 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/#comment-375 Thanks James, It's very encouraging to know that other people agree with my decision. Thanks James,

It’s very encouraging to know that other people agree with my decision.

]]> By: James http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/comment-page-1/#comment-370 James Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:17:59 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/#comment-370 For what its worth I think you've made the right decision for the right reasons. Its fun learning new stuff and I think Rails is a great framework but if you need to deliver a product your best chance of success is doing it with something you know well (as long as the tool is up to the job). Particularly so when it's your own money on the line! Good luck with your project. James For what its worth I think you’ve made the right decision for the right reasons. Its fun learning new stuff and I think Rails is a great framework but if you need to deliver a product your best chance of success is doing it with something you know well (as long as the tool is up to the job).

Particularly so when it’s your own money on the line!

Good luck with your project.

James

]]> By: Alex http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/comment-page-1/#comment-363 Alex Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:28:30 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/#comment-363 Thanks Georgi, I completely agree with you. Happiness is ultimately what we want to achieve. Otherwise we would be back there working for "the man", and the only sweat we would break is from clogging the toilet. Thanks Georgi, I completely agree with you.

Happiness is ultimately what we want to achieve.

Otherwise we would be back there working for “the man”, and the only sweat we would break is from clogging the toilet.

]]> By: Georgi http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/comment-page-1/#comment-361 Georgi Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:39:26 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/#comment-361 Well, we all start like this that We love what we want and we strive for what there is out there. And exciting. And new. My opinion simply is that if you want to build a new business, you have to care about steadyness. Golden times are over. Just get me right, internet times are fast moving times. But rely on what you know and what you want. Good decicion, Alex. Keep moving along with what you know best, but also keep open minded. And learn new things. That, I think, is the recipe to pursuit happiness. Well, we all start like this that We love what we want and we strive for what there is out there. And exciting. And new. My opinion simply is that if you want to build a new business, you have to care about steadyness. Golden times are over. Just get me right, internet times are fast moving times. But rely on what you know and what you want.

Good decicion, Alex. Keep moving along with what you know best, but also keep open minded. And learn new things. That, I think, is the recipe to pursuit happiness.

]]> By: Alex http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/comment-page-1/#comment-360 Alex Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:27:20 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/02/14/how-not-to-drink-the-ruby-coloured-cool-aid/#comment-360 Haha. I don't know if that's good or bad ;) Haha. I don’t know if that’s good or bad ;)

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