Comments on: UI rant: Form fields, I hate forms http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/01/29/ui-rant-form-fields-i-hate-forms/ High-Availability Guru Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:42:14 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Alex http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/01/29/ui-rant-form-fields-i-hate-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-156 Alex Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:20:49 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/01/29/ui-rant-form-fields-i-hate-forms/#comment-156 I'm glad to hear it worked! I'm anxious to see the day where browser functionality will be standardized across all platforms... I’m glad to hear it worked!

I’m anxious to see the day where browser functionality will be standardized across all platforms…

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By: bjhess http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/01/29/ui-rant-form-fields-i-hate-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-144 bjhess Tue, 06 Feb 2007 04:06:54 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/01/29/ui-rant-form-fields-i-hate-forms/#comment-144 Yeah, that fixed it. Boy, what a wonderful problem to have to consider. I'll probably just ignore it as I'm also against coding for those unfortunate souls using a Mac with Firefox defaulted poorly. Well, I also had some issues with Safari that were improved with the OS X tweak. Thanks for the help - it's hard to Google for "firefox" and "tab" without a ton of hits about tab-based browsing. (And no, I don't really want to get into tabindexing if I can avoid it.) Yeah, that fixed it. Boy, what a wonderful problem to have to consider. I’ll probably just ignore it as I’m also against coding for those unfortunate souls using a Mac with Firefox defaulted poorly. Well, I also had some issues with Safari that were improved with the OS X tweak.

Thanks for the help – it’s hard to Google for “firefox” and “tab” without a ton of hits about tab-based browsing.

(And no, I don’t really want to get into tabindexing if I can avoid it.)

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By: Alex http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/01/29/ui-rant-form-fields-i-hate-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-117 Alex Sun, 04 Feb 2007 22:40:01 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/01/29/ui-rant-form-fields-i-hate-forms/#comment-117 Yes it is possible to manually perform tab indexing in html forms... there's a property called "tabindex" that can be added to an "input" field. The bug you're experiencing is a Firefox bug and can be fixed with an OS X tweak or a Firefox tweak (see post/comments below): http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/01/18/551/ I'm all against coding workarounds for specific platforms/browsers which is why I try to re-evaluate the use of a certain form element. If it must be done, then make sure you test in every browser/platform, then write the necessary JS/CSS to correct it. Good luck! Let us know how it works out for you. Yes it is possible to manually perform tab indexing in html forms… there’s a property called “tabindex” that can be added to an “input” field.

The bug you’re experiencing is a Firefox bug and can be fixed with an OS X tweak or a Firefox tweak (see post/comments below):
http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/01/18/551/

I’m all against coding workarounds for specific platforms/browsers which is why I try to re-evaluate the use of a certain form element.

If it must be done, then make sure you test in every browser/platform, then write the necessary JS/CSS to correct it.

Good luck! Let us know how it works out for you.

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By: bjhess http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/01/29/ui-rant-form-fields-i-hate-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-115 bjhess Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:37:09 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/01/29/ui-rant-form-fields-i-hate-forms/#comment-115 I've been updating the forms on the site I am working on right now, and I bookmarked this post so I would return to it when I needed to do the work. In the meantime, I converted from Windows XP to OS X. I swear, I can no longer tab to drop downs or checkboxes like I conveniently could in Windows. Well, specifically I find that I can tab to drop downs in Safari, but not buttons, links or checkboxes. In Firefox, I can't tab to any of those things. (An example is http://www.ups.com - the landing page you get before you've selected your home country. Or just go to the Amazon homepage.) Am I just not up-to-speed on the OS X model? Or are there some tab index things going on that most web developers are not aware of? I’ve been updating the forms on the site I am working on right now, and I bookmarked this post so I would return to it when I needed to do the work. In the meantime, I converted from Windows XP to OS X. I swear, I can no longer tab to drop downs or checkboxes like I conveniently could in Windows.

Well, specifically I find that I can tab to drop downs in Safari, but not buttons, links or checkboxes. In Firefox, I can’t tab to any of those things.

(An example is http://www.ups.com – the landing page you get before you’ve selected your home country. Or just go to the Amazon homepage.)

Am I just not up-to-speed on the OS X model? Or are there some tab index things going on that most web developers are not aware of?

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By: Alex http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/01/29/ui-rant-form-fields-i-hate-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Alex Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:36:54 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/01/29/ui-rant-form-fields-i-hate-forms/#comment-43 Thanks! I'm also glad they don't call unexpectedly. Thanks!

I’m also glad they don’t call unexpectedly.

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By: Johan Holmberg http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/01/29/ui-rant-form-fields-i-hate-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-35 Johan Holmberg Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:49:42 +0000 http://www.alexwilliams.ca/blog/2007/01/29/ui-rant-form-fields-i-hate-forms/#comment-35 I couldn't agree more with you. I did find it quite funny though in a tragicomical way how you described the somewhat useless information they ask for. I'm glad they don't actually call you unexpectedly. I couldn’t agree more with you. I did find it quite funny though in a tragicomical way how you described the somewhat useless information they ask for. I’m glad they don’t actually call you unexpectedly.

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